Just why is GW Community so Rude?

[Shadowspawn X]

Does the difficulty level of GW contribute to the rude culture of the GW community? Someone made a thread recently supposing that GW full of children ruining the game. Many quickly pointed out that jerks and rudeness was coming from all ages in the GW community. So I would like to explore why everyone is GW is not not singing kumbuya and bonding at the hip. I think its because GW is an extremely demanding game. I have never played another MMO but I have heard of people doing laid back activities in other games such as crafting and fishing. These people who play these games just log on for a playful rump in the sandbox it seems. Meanwhile GW is a warbox with no time to chill, once you leave the outpost its “game on” or die. Scrubs, n00bs or any type of mistake can’t be tolerated because any incompetence on anyone’s part can make an eight man team fail in pve or pvp. Many people because of the difficulty of the game I believe are frustrated and hostile. Think about your friends list. It is probably strictly made up of good players, guys you held halls with and ran though elite and hard mode missions more utilitarian relationships than anything else, when was the last time you failed a mission or got wiped in pvp and bothered to add those people to your friends list? GW is the skill>time game which is why we all love it, yet the cost of the challenge is an extreme intolerance for imperfection in our community. Given this I don’t ever think GW will have a friendly community, even the charr are rude and rank you when they win. Yet I would rather fight HM charr than fish any day. Thoughts?.

[Gift3d]

Kids play video games. That's what they do. Wherever there is a video game, there will be kids.

Now, if you see a 14 year old kid playing a computer game, and an old hairy 40 year old guy playing a video game, which do you think would look less appropriate? The 40 year old guy.

The GW community, for some unknown reason, is FULL of these people who are 30+ years old spending massive time on Guild Wars. Their carebear attitude and habit of taking everything far too serious is pretty much opposite of the people of the age group that SHOULD be playing video games (14-20ish) who are lighthearted players who can joke around. That's where the nuclear war happens. It's like when cold and warm air fronts collide, what do you get? A tornado. And in this case, it's a shitstorm tornado of over-punctuation and reports, and "NOUNOUNOU DIK DIK DIK" 's.

[Icy The Mage]

Because once you exit out of your town/outpost/guildhall/wherever the hell you are, you're all alone, and the REASON you LEFT everyone was so that you could game.

Also, I'd suggest checking out any of the numerous places that friendly(?) conversation still goes on:

~Shing Jea Monastery
~Pre-Searing
~GToB AD1
~RA (lawl)
~Kamadan, kinda...

Or you know, just join a guild for fun and chill in your guild hall, talking on the guild and/or alliance chat channels.

Guild Wars also isn't hard (excepting HM Gw:En), it's just time-consuming, and the majority of people who play Guild Wars don't really have as much time as they want to spend doing w/e in an online game, which is also why they didn't decide to spend 15$ a month on Guild Wars (which I happily would btw), and run on sentences really are ftw.

[Red Sonya]

It's because it has no monthly fee. You'll find the same attitudes and blamings in all the rest of those that have no monthly fees as well. Just take a walk down Diablo 2's chat rooms sometimes. You must know in real life that leechers and users and freeloaders and riff raff of all kinds make their visits to the FREE places where they can get food and shelter and anything else they can get their lazy grubby hands on. Same applies in no monthly fee type games only it's a lil bit higher level than freeloaders and bums because they still need a computer to play. WOW has more of them because they have such a high population of any other mmorpg, but, if you go play say in a game world like EVERQUEST or DAOC or ANARCHY ONLINE you will hardly ever run into any kind of riff raff except on a very rare occassion.

What I do find funny is since TIME is the only consumption in this game there are so many people that get pissed off cause their groups wipe or blame everything on noobs and pugs when they can't even play the game well themselves a lot of the times. GW is a game about blame it on someone else and never accept any responsibilities....more of about being free to play and no monthly fee type people involved again. When you have pretty much total freedom (and you do in GW) you will have almost total chaos. There isn't really much of any law in GW and when you have no law you also have near total chaos. I see it in every town/outpost daily always with the foul language the stfu's the ya mama jokes and worst of all the CHUCK NORRIS comments.

[Breakfast Mc Rit]

Most of the people on my friends list are people I get along with. Not exactly great players, my best in-game friend doesn't even have a decent computer and I have the suspicion that he C-Spaces in PvP.

I don't add jerks or people that only have the objective to win.

[Avarre]

The Guild Wars community is nowhere near the rudest community on the internet.

[zwei2stein]

GW is not demanding game. Not at all. It requires players to know what they are doing later in game, but so do most games.

Its just that goal-oriented players dont want waste time on failures so they try to make everything to maximize succes chances: "perfect teams".

Those people are imcompatible with laid-back players, acusing them of "noobiness" are requiring perfection where one is not necesary.

As game progresses, goal oriented people get much narrower view on how to win game unless they get a grip. Soon, everyone who does not 100% agree with them or wiki seems to be noob. At same time, laid back people are done with game leaving in only goal-oriented ones, creating "noob hell" where everyone except them seems to be utter noob.

Its just impression of game that wont tolerate mistakes, in reality game is ... easy.

/dont confuse this with trully immature people, they are the ones who are prone to using "noob" label more than anyone/

[Kerwyn Nasilan]

I talk and get along great with my allience and while the conversaitions in Shing Jea waiting for 2 where um.....interesting....they where not very negative.

[Horus]

Originally Posted by Avarre

The Guild Wars community is nowhere near the rudest community on the internet.

very true

i actually don't know about what rudness these people are talking about

[fireflyry]

From personal experience I tend to have found that subscription based games have a generally politer and more civil community hence question the influence this has overall.

I played CoH for over a year and did'nt see one insult....ever....and have found all of the other MMO subscription games I've tried to be much the same.

I have also found having a larger server choice based on more specific area locations to have had a similar effect.

Paying a one off price and chucking the majority of players at the same server seems to attract the more "vocal" subset of gamers in my experience.

[Minime The Shadow]

most of my mates on my list are just that, "mates" some arent great players but nice to talk to, and good to teach, only a few have actually completed most the game but they just happen to be great people.

i dont tend to see most of this "rudeness and scamming" that people talk about, i think its down to your playstyle. talking to guildies and alliance members mostly, occasioanally have local chat on.

if you want to avoid it, then its easily done, some people rise to the bait too easy and will argue back, best way to win an argument, walk away, leave everyone else laughing at the trouble starter for being immature.

[RedNova88]

Well, I believe you'll find that if you play other MMOs, you will see that GW is incredibly relaxed compared to other mainstream MMOs such as WoW or Lineage 2, where the whole game is balanced (or rather not) around powerful items. In GW you get max items and you're done, which eases the burden on a A LOT of casual people. You also don't need to worry about repairing, and rebuffing when you die, or losing a ton of experience to your next level.

In short, to answer your question as to why the community is so hostile, use the following formula.

stupid people+mean people= bad community

It's not Anet's fault, it's not your fault, it's because people in general are either jerks, or are just plain dumb, and can't help but do stupid things.

[I Dont Do Coke]

What rudeness? Oh, local chat is off.

[Wolf2581]

The community is simply a reflection of human society. The only difference here is that people have even less sense of responsibility and consideration due to no threat of tangible repercussions.

[upier]

Global warming.

(I wanted to do a Colbert and blame the bears - but I think the joke would be lost on a GW forum ...)

[Miska Bow]

Originally Posted by Avarre

The Guild Wars community is nowhere near the rudest community on the internet.

QFT

Try Silkroad online, you'll know what rude is.

[Solas]

its not just GW any online game i've played there is an abundance of jerks, All games that are online do, its not the game its the people.

[Ate of DK]

Once in a while you get a kiddie that flames you because you killed his W/Mo.

[Lykan]

Because people expect you to be good. Welcome to Anets cookie cutter button mashing world. Where if your dumb enough to make a mistake you will pay for it.

Unlike most games, WoW for example anyone can get the best stuff and play on the elite missions without difficulty and due to Anet making the game easier *cough UB* as long as you have the right skills you can 'try' to play most high end missions, effectively bypassing the need to actually be good at the game.

Imo 90% of people trying to play the high end content of GW will suck at it. But they will get thru somehow and think they are great. "Very exp I have completed before!"

Where as in another game you have to work very very hard to get the items and necessary gaming knowledge, levelling etc... to even attempt highend content. And then try find a decent guild to take you on the runs with full team co-ordination and vent/ts a big requirement..

The most team co-ordination you get in GW pugs is "u bring cons k??"

[SirSausage]

Too many uber-intelligent elitists rampaging in the forums.
That's right, no one can match their intelligence, not even ANET.